<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1391712040425381771</id><updated>2011-04-21T17:37:13.610-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Other Docs</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://pphpentecostal-charismaticissue.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1391712040425381771/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://pphpentecostal-charismaticissue.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>j0e1...</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18005314330025610070</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>1</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1391712040425381771.post-4822922871505988018</id><published>2007-11-19T04:58:00.003-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-19T05:01:52.669-08:00</updated><title type='text'>PPH Position on the Pentecostal-Charismatic Issue</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;There are issues in Christendom which are “clear as daylight” and there are those which are the “subject of endless fights.”  Those clear and unequivocal doctrines would be repeated in the gospels, Acts and the epistles.  For example, concerning salvation in John 14:6; Acts 4:12; Rom 3:23-24.  However, even when it is clear as daylight we put forth our stand with gentleness and respect.  (1 Peter 3:15)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;For issues which are the subject of argument in Christendom, we “do not go beyond what is written” (1 Cor 4:6) and we remain humble and bear one another in love (Eph 4:2)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;PPH Brethren Church's position is:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;The following two points are the “clear as daylight” ones, and are in accordance with the PPH Statement of Faith (see www.pphbc.org/beliefs.php):&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Holy Spirit indwells the believer  at the point of conversion (Titus 3:5-7; 1 Cor 12:3; Rom 8:9).   God’s people are Spirit people – they are given life by the  Spirit, walk by the Spirit and testify by the Spirit (Gal 5:25; 2  Cor 3:3,6).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;ol start="2"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Scripture exhorts us to be  constantly filled with the Spirit (Eph 5:18). To be filled with the  Spirit is to surrender our lives and offer our bodies as living  sacrifices.  The focus is on “surrender”, not on “having an  experience”.  However, we acknowledge that the “fanning into  flame” our desire to be used by God (2 Tim 1:6) can result in  special experiences that may include speaking in tongues, a deep  sense of God’s presence, peace, a deep sense of sin and need of  repentance, a renewed desire for the Word, fervor and courage for  evangelism, etc.  The filling with the Spirit is for ministry, not  to have an experience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;The following points are PPH’s position on issues which may have been the “subject of endless fights”.  We humbly put this forward as our interpretation of Scripture.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ol start="3"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;We do not subscribe to the  Pentecostal position that all believers must necessarily experience  a second-blessing “Baptism in the Holy Spirit” experience  following salvation, and that the initial physical evidence of such  an experience is to speak in tongues.  There is no clear biblical  teaching that this must be the case.  (See Note 1 below.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;ol start="4"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;We are also against the  “cessasionist” doctrine, which believes that the gifts  (particularly tongues and prophecy) of the Holy Spirit have been  withdrawn from the Church.  We encourage the seeking of the full  range of the gifts of the Spirit. (See Note 2 below.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;ol start="5"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;We praise the Lord for those who  have special experiences from the Lord.  We thank God for those who  receive the gifts of the Spirit, including the gift of tongues.  The  test is whether they become more effective servants in the church  (body of believers).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;ol start="6"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Not everyone must have the gift of  tongues.  In “public”, tongues must always be interpreted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;ol start="7"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;People have been known to fall  down under the power of God.  (2 Chron 5:14; Matthew 17:6, 28:4;  John 18:6; Revelation 1:17).  People have also been known to have  other experiences like those in point 2 above.  It is God we seek,  and not the experience.  We do not encourage using the term, “slain  in the Spirit”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;ol start="8"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;We continue to maintain the bond  of Christian fellowship with those of the Pentecostal persuasion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;We recommend three good principles for peace, as advocated by John Stott:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;To those who have had “special  experiences” - do not "condemn" others or treat them as  unspiritual if they do not have similar experiences.  Don’t go  around exhorting others to have similar experiences.  Instead focus  on using the gifts of the Spirit and let your fruit do the talking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;ol start="2"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;To those who have not had these  experiences - do not use your own preconceptions and prejudices to  deny that others can experience it, i.e. do not put God into a  straitjacket.  Instead, seek to be filled with the Spirit so that  you can be more effective in serving God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;ol start="3"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;To all of us - be filled with the  Holy Spirit. This is more important than whether we had or had not  been “baptized” with the Holy Spirit. Continuous filling for  empowerment for service, worship, witness, etc brings glory to God.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1391712040425381771-4822922871505988018?l=pphpentecostal-charismaticissue.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://pphpentecostal-charismaticissue.blogspot.com/feeds/4822922871505988018/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1391712040425381771&amp;postID=4822922871505988018' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1391712040425381771/posts/default/4822922871505988018'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1391712040425381771/posts/default/4822922871505988018'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://pphpentecostal-charismaticissue.blogspot.com/2007/11/pph-position-on-pentecostal-charismatic_19.html' title='PPH Position on the Pentecostal-Charismatic Issue'/><author><name>j0e1...</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18005314330025610070</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
